Some experiments with the FP10 3D api. Shading & Speed
A smooth shaded elephant.
Behind the scenes I've been insanely busy for the last months. But just to keep you posted on some progess on my side, here's some demos of me playing around with Flash Player 10's 3D API's.
I'll keep this short, here's some demos.
Some tests with shading : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
You'll notice that the speed slows down when you go up in the number of examples. The amount of triangles increase per example. Since shading is still one of the most heavy appliances of any 3D engine, I thought it would be good to start out testing that, and see how it would work in a realistic 3D engine environment.
Next, this is not adviced to look at if you get car-sick easily.....a pure speed test.
A bit slower then it could run using any of the new wmodes, but for speeds sake, we're getting there.
Source code not available yet. First I'm looking at how to optimize. And yes, I'm working hard on a new version of Papervision3D, with the rest of the team. Soon I'll post some better examples, including a BSP example.
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22 Comments, Comment or Ping
David
Those look amazing, the frame rate is pretty good in most cases. Out of curiosity, are you interpolating vertex normals for these examples, or only envmap coordinates? It would be cool to see -real- phong shading
Nov 25th, 2008
UnitZeroOne
David : It’s calculating the vertexnormals, then updating the uvcoords for the envmaps.
Nov 25th, 2008
Piergiorgio Niero
are you using pixelbender too or just player 10 graphics apis?
if you’re not using it: why?
(however…that elephant looks great!
)
Nov 25th, 2008
Jensa
Awesome Ralph!
Nov 25th, 2008
UnitZeroOne
Jensa : Thanks man!
Piergiorgio : It’s the internal 3D math functionality together with the new graphic API’s. PB wouldn’t be able to render that many seperate triangles and keep your cpu alive.
Nov 25th, 2008
stef
Awesome ! Well done
Nov 25th, 2008
dVyper
Truly brilliant. My comp was able to handle all of the example except dumbo without noticable slowdown. I can’t wait to get some source for this!
Nov 26th, 2008
UnitZeroOne
Thanks dVyper and stef! These are really ment to see where the bogging down starts. The elephant and it’s relative screensize is more likely to fail the speed department due too the actual rendering of pixels then the shader code. +5000 triangles drawing is somewhat heavy on flash. I also think we are meeting the limits of a software rasterizer.
Nov 26th, 2008
Josue Palma
AWESOME
Nov 26th, 2008
Tyler Egeto
Looks great! It is amazing how far you guys have come.
Nov 26th, 2008
TUNCAYS
incredible
Dec 6th, 2008
Özgür ALTAY
They are great examples for Flash Player 10.
But i have some problems with the minor version of flash player 10;
in Flash Player 10.0 r12 it is fine
it does not show mappings in Flash Player 10.0.2 d26 as you can see in the image here
Jan 4th, 2009
16ar
you PV3D guys JUST rock !
When will we have the pleasure to play with this new engine and do you think i will be usable with physics engines like jiglib ?
cheers
Jan 24th, 2009
Thierry
It would be great for a source code, or tutorial for something like this.
if you know of any – PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE point me in the right direction!!
im looking to do something very similar.
thanks.
Mar 12th, 2009
rob
have you tried any examples in GPU mode and if so, any noticeable differences between GPU and the other wmodes?
May 29th, 2009
monse
Hi!
it´s awezome but where can i find a tuto ?
i´m looking for a modeling tuto in flex with PV3D
can u help me?
Jun 23rd, 2009
Mark
Ralph,
Has the code for this type of shader support been released as part of Papervision 2.0? Where can I find more info on the type of shader support for PPV?
Nov 6th, 2009
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